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It's on Reddit so I have already eaten my own fingers this morning, but this is an interesting find about the dangers of automotive telemetry. Of course they're fucking selling it. One ithat made me think of @onepict
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@sullybiker it's pretty much going to be everywhere.

Driver tracking, probably will be mandatory for insurance, if it isn't already.

It's a treasure trove for the nefarious.

@onepict I have an app for my car and the entire journey history is in there and I don't think it can be opted out of.

@sullybiker @onepict A large enough EMP blast should resolve that. I can't speak to how it might affect driveability afterward, but the reporting should stop.

@onepict It surprised me it comes with a builtin wireless cellular system; they give you a year free then if you want to be able to access it, you have to subscribe. But I assume it never stops phoning home.

@sullybiker I do not like this. You can't opt out and pretty soon it's going to be impossible to get a vehicle without one.

We're just going to be using our old tractor at this rate.

@sullybiker we've an old Massey, very little electronics.

I could just sit in our back bucket while my husband drives, 🤣

@onepict With the biggest hat you can find, and a parasol, I hop.

@sullybiker

"never stops phoning home" turns out already to have been a problem, cf the Subaru Starlink (no, not that Starlink, the other one) killing batteries, beyond the ick of 3rd party data sharing.

the Chevy variant, OnStar, was founded in 1996

@onepict

@onepict @sullybiker

younger folk in UK have already been conditioned to accept it for insurance (its not "compulsory" but made unaffordable without the tracker, although usually only for 1-2 years after getting their licence).

@tk @sullybiker I need to get motorcycle rebuilt. Then check I can actually still ride it.

@sullybiker @onepict omg the commenters on Reddit hurt my head.

Right to repair (and to rip out the cellular device and/or antenna) is vital. Privacy laws need strengthening... Not "Oh this mfr does it and android does it get used to it" whataboutism bullshit.

Can NOBODY say No to anything these days?

Put more miles on your bike, to be sure.

@kinetix @onepict @sullybiker The people who say "no" are often those who've said "no" to Reddit. There's some level of selection bias going on.

@wizzwizz4 @onepict @sullybiker lol! Two thumbs up for that response, I suspect you're probably right.

@sullybiker @onepict That’s why I disconnected the OnStar antenna in my Chevy #BoltEV and slapped a dummy load on the transceiver. Nothing’s getting in or out. Of course, I never paid for OnStar and my LexisNexis report came back empty, but it never hurts to go for the belt and suspenders approach.

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