An interesting thing to me about the discussion around the Discord store is how many people defend Discord saying that they're operating out of a large complex and have a high cost of doing business.
I give zero fucks about how expensive it is to do business. Zero. If your business is inefficient and wastes money (such as with a Chucklefish tier stupid office in an area where real estate comes at a high price), thats YOUR problem, it isn't MY problem.
I give zero fucks about how expensive it is to do business. Zero. If your business is inefficient and wastes money (such as with a Chucklefish tier stupid office in an area where real estate comes at a high price), thats YOUR problem, it isn't MY problem.
XMPP and mumble servers or something like Jitsi with XMPP and SIP have been doing /exactly/ what Discord have just without the popular, glitzy interface, for over a decade now. They're not in danger of running out of business because the company behind them is living a lavish, extravagant lifestyle on your dime. Use those instead.
I use discord myself out of necessity, because some of the developers I need to communicate with are hypocritical idiots who develop free software with proprietary tools, but I'm honestly thinking of just telling them to stuff it.
I really wish there was an XMPP client with a more modern interfact though.
You can go on about how its technically better until the cows come home, convenience is a force multiplier, and most desktop XMPP clients Ive found that work on Windows are not convenient. And let's face it, I am not going to convince the average gamer or someone just suing their computer to watch youtube, to futz around with Linux.
@maiyannah Stuff like Linux has had that issue for a fucklong time now, in that it comes across as a massive amount of faffing about when Windows usually does what they want when they tell it to without going to a shitload more effort.
Probably doesn't help that most people advocating for stuff have long since been able to see this, the other week I had somebody arguing that all examples of music should be in .flac or .mod and nothing else, even though it's an inconvenience that most people who came across it wouldn't want to deal with.
Probably doesn't help that most people advocating for stuff have long since been able to see this, the other week I had somebody arguing that all examples of music should be in .flac or .mod and nothing else, even though it's an inconvenience that most people who came across it wouldn't want to deal with.
@purplehippo A lot of the effort to install Linux is a sort of myth now. It walks you through the process very much. But its a new interface that does things differently and relearning how things are done is a real cognitive load that needs a benefit most people consider "worth it."
As much as free software as a movement doesn't like to concede it being free software isn't enough of a draw for the majority of people to be worth relearning things. In my experience, you have to have a program people want to use enough to learn the new system. Krita actually resulted in an upswing of Linux adoption, even with a Windows port, because it meant there wasn't a reason to put up with Windows 10's increasingly disfunctional nature for many artists, for instance.
As much as free software as a movement doesn't like to concede it being free software isn't enough of a draw for the majority of people to be worth relearning things. In my experience, you have to have a program people want to use enough to learn the new system. Krita actually resulted in an upswing of Linux adoption, even with a Windows port, because it meant there wasn't a reason to put up with Windows 10's increasingly disfunctional nature for many artists, for instance.
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@maiyannah @purplehippo Desktop Linux can be a frustrating exercise for those that are very particular about the applications and functionality they want. For Linux to truly work for you, you have to be willing and able to be open-minded enough to let some things go, and adopt others.
That's a big obstacle, even for 'power users'.
@maiyannah @purplehippo I dogfood Linux at work, largely because I like it, but also as an exercise in trying to make it fit in an enterprise environment.
The first thing you have to be able to mentally do is accept what works and what doesn't. For me the tradeoff is entirely worth it; for others, it's more difficult.