@nytpu I'm glad that at least XFCE have made a real effort to not do things like this.
@nytpu And they've taken flak for it.
@nytpu It's getting hard for developers because it's in bloody everything.
@nytpu I believe that is absolutely intentional. It's too deliberate to be otherwise.
@sullybiker Oh the System Monitor definitely is. This bug is seemingly unintentional according to the bug report, just happened because I guess none of their developers has a non-systemd test machine (and/or they didn't do a thorough enough test for them to try screen sharing) https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=483137
@sullybiker Additional fact: the new System Monitor that replaced ksysguard in KDE 6 depends on systemd because for some reason it insists on using the systemd supervision tree (via cgroups) instead of just… reading the list of processes like every other system monitor program does?