Jim @sullybiker@sully.site

@Flick A lot of the controversy arose from the fact they did not recover people, for little good reason. Raising it would be expensive, but it's nearly 800 people, ffs.

@phanecak Said Pandora, as she tried to close the box.

@Flick The main. lesson from it is, if you're on a ship and it looks like things are going bad, do not waste time getting out.

@Flick You can go down the rabbit hole. It's interesting.

@Flick They even went back last year and raised the ramp - a key part of the evidence - and it was pretty much as the report hypothesized.

@Flick I think it was bureaucratic imcompetence leading to the usual information vacuum. The official report has not been meaningfully contested.

@Flick There's lots of conspiracies. Supposedly it was carrying something illicit.

@mntmn I love how far you've come with this project.

@derekvanvliet Hopefully that day is a long way off.

In this case they surveyed and recorded every victim location for the coroner, and for what was assumed would be a recovery effort, but it never happened. They just left them in there. The dive team were quite confident they could do it.

This is a saturation dive team exploring MS Estonia back in Winter 1994. Nothing graphic is shown (despite ~750 victims trapped in the hull) but it gives s great idea of the very difficult working conditions such teams face.
https://youtu.be/ACpsOTfEplg

@kinetix The upvote system is like a turbocharger for derails.

Penetration diving and victim recovery is extremely hazardous. I am quite surprised they didn't attempt to raise the wreck and work on the surface. Glad they got them all out, for all that.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/aug/23/mike-lynch-yacht-possibility-of-manslaughter-charges-as-final-body-retrieved-sicily

@eleanorrees@mas.to I don't have anything to say other than I'm very sorry you're enduring this and hope things improve for you. This is just digital but we're always here.

@kinetix I despair when a really good discussion gets wrecked by comedians.

@kinetix It's always had the 'idiot king' problem, in that shit tends to be voted to the surface and it's all you see.

@SeventhMagpie Yes, there is also a pattern of deferring decisions to the internet hive-mind, which in the case of Reddit is somewhere between catastrophic and plain stupid.

It's the same with cars. "Should I buy xyz?" The internet isn't going to save you, bro.